Pine Valley Special Service District Meeting (PVSSD): Minutes of the Meeting held On June 4, 2008

Attending Members: Mary Esther Putnam (Chair); Dall Winn; Jeff Gardner; Spence Beckstrom; John Nichols

Also Present: Gerald Schiefer (Fire Chief); Beverly Udell (Secretary)

Guests:  Tav Truman; Mike Stucki; Kent Sundberg; Sidney Atkin; Grant Cotterall; Mary Cotterall; Bob Hermandson; Scott Vance; Helga Love; Bob Herpel

Absent: George Cropper (Treasurer)

1.  General Business:

a/b. Welcome – Meeting was opened by Mary Esther (Chair) at 6:05 PM and the Pledge of Allegiance was said.

c. Minutes: Due to the storm, the Minutes were not printed.  They will be reviewed at next months meeting.

d. Pine Valley Building Permits Reviewed: The was one permit to be reviewed, but they didn’t yet have a site plan, so the Board will wait on signage until there is a site plan. * Sage Rd – Alma Truman’s property has been subdivided.  Tav Truman brought in plan for 2 cabins on that property.

e. Kent Sundberg: Kent passed out plans for his proposed subdivision.  He explained that there would be 3 acre lots – each with it’s own septic tank.  There would be 10 of them.  The County wants him to put in sidewalks and gutters, plus a 50’ road.  He claimed that the largest road currently in the area is 26 feet.  He proposes a 26’ road and no sidewalks or gutters under a “PD” provision. He is looking at a circle type road system to alleviate a problem of there only being one way in and one way out.  There would be CCNRs and the property owners would be responsible for the upkeep of the roads.  He would install fire hydrants every 250 feet.  John was concerned about large fire trucks being able to make the turns at the top of the road.  Kent asked him to find out what the radius would need to be to have the truck be able to make the turn and he would make sure the road would accommodate that.  Another question regarded run off and drainage.  Gerald was worried specifically about lots 1 & 2 because they would be built on top of a hill.  Kent said he would put fire plugs close by those homes to accommodate.  John asked if Kent would just develop the land, or if he would actually be building the homes.  Kent plans on selling the lots and letting the new owners build their own homes.  Most of the houses would be hidden from the general view.  Kent would also possibly put in a pump – right now they only have 32 lbs of pressure in the area.  Water is certainly a concern for the fire department, as it was mentioned that a fire truck can’t be filled with only 32 lbs of pressure.  Mike Stucki chimed in and said that there would need to be 32 ft. of asphalt, plus the curbs and gutter – making a 50 foot right of way (Mike is Chairman of the County Planning Committee.) Sidewalks aren’t yet mandated by the County, but they are indeed asked for (he will check to verify that.)

f. Board Member Reports:

Mary Esther:  There is a notice for a public hearing on June 9th regarding the start up of a local district to cover law enforcement in Pine Valley. * Bob Hermanson wants to do a running event in Pine Valley on August 16th at 7:00 AM.  It will take approx. 2 hours.  Bob runs a for profit organization named Blue Duck that organizes these events in various locations.  Mary Esther asked how this got approved through the County and Mike Stucki said that they understood from Bob that he already had talked to Mary Esther and that she had given permission on behalf of the Board.  Mary Esther said she had indeed spoken on the phone with Bob, but there obviously was a lack of communication because she hadn’t approved anything. She asked Mike Stucki if from now on, the Planning Committee would ask for a written letter from Pine Valley before approving anything like that again. Bob Herpel was concerned about the traffic on the road during the run.  There was also concern from the Board because it would appear that Tim from the Lodge was doing some promoting because the run would start and stop at his place, so he would be the one in Pine Valley to benefit, whereas the residents would be inconvenienced. Blue Duck is already going to pay for extra law enforcement, as well as they carry their own insurance. The Board wanted to have a motion to deny the run, but Mike said it was too late because the Planning Commission had already given permission.  Mary Esther said she also then wanted Blue Duck to get written notices to all of the property owners and also a notice in the Post Office.  There could be up to 400 people in the Valley involved in the run – so Mary Esther said she wanted it restricted to only 200 runners.

Spence: Just an additional reminder about the Public Hearing at 6:00 on Monday for the creation of the 2nd Service District for handling law enforcement.

John: he got the batteries for the Fire Department radios.

Jeff: Called the sheriff about the speed limit coming into town.  The Board wants it changed to be 35 mph. * Dave Patterson is advising heavily that Impact Fees should be reviewed thoroughly before any decisions are made.

Dall: None

Fire Chief – Gerald:  See attached report.

Treasurer’s Report – George:  See attached report.

2 –   Public Comments: Scott Vance asked about all of the problems with our trash dumpsters.  Can TV monitors be installed? Mary Esther suggested calls to Red Rock, but Gerald added that we need some type of enforcement.  Rumors have it that there have been problems at all of the dumpster sites close to here, so Red Rock may close them all and only have the one in Central that they will have 24 manned.


John moved for the meeting to adjourn at 6:50.  All were in favor.


The next Board meeting will be held on Wednesday, July 2, 2008 at 5:00 P.M.